Well, J. Howard is back. Like last time, Señor Dog did some business at the strip club.
J. Howard has really come through for us, and he really has given Señor Dog a lot of work. So... We'll make him happy.
This time the bill was $1500 for three guys. I didn't even ask for the story.
I trust my Señor. When he's thinking or talking or planning about work (which he loves), he misses everything else in the room. His focus was the business, which means he was taking care of us. He's smart, and he's always a step ahead.
I don't really have a problem with strip clubs in this context because they help our bottom line, and if it helps take care of our family, I'll take it. This is one of the many reasons I think it's hard for women to compete on the same level as men in business. It's not fair, it sucks, and it's sketchy, but it's reality.
Thursday, January 7, 2010
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Hmm. I guess I'm uber liberal. I totally see no problem with a partner going to a strip club. I guess it comes down to how comfortable you are with your relationship, and how much you trust one another.
But then, my bf does nude and erotic photography, and I have no problem with that. I don't feel threatened, which some people just don't get. I guess that comes from having an artist background.
I also took him (along with another girlfriend) to another city (in a more liberal state than Washington) to several strip clubs for his birthday last year. Not my thing, but they both enjoyed it.
Truly unbelievable...he complains that he can't buy the house he wants and then spends $1500 at a strip club. This has less to do with the actual strip club than the underlying action of spending a lot of money that you can't necessarily afford and trying to justify it as something he has to do. This is NOT a requirement to have a successful business. And if you believe that, then I feel sorry for you.
Speaking as a woman and a small business person, doing business in strip clubs is not normal, at least not in my industry. The fact that your husband has a client who likes strip clubs to the point at which your husband is blowing $1500 at one does not mean that "it's hard for women to compete on the same level as men in business." I don't feel like being a woman has held me back at all.
Girl you are kidding yourself if you think a guy is thinking about business in a room full of naked breasts. As a woman I have actually been to a strip club with male collegues on a 'business night out'. No work was done.
I absolutely cannot believe what I'm reading. The fact is that Dog's husband has a small business and relies upon this client for a significant portion of its revenue. If a condition of getting his business is taking the client to a LEGAL establishment for his entertainment, Dog's husband would be a fool not to do it.
I agree with Dog. This is for the benefit of her family, and her husband is doing what he needs to do. My only hope is that the revenue brought in, FAR exceeds the money spent on this client ($1500 is a lot of money).
My husband (who does not frequent strip clubs) and I own a small business. Thankfully, none of our clients has asked to be entertained at a strip club, but if one did, I would expect my husband to take him. Instead, he takes them out for $300 steak dinners. Is there really any difference?
I really don't see a problem with this. I did a 3-month internship at a small engineering firm in Germany one summer and one day some possible clients came in and they also asked to go to a strip club and I would not be surprised if some of them ended at a brothel. Maybe Europeans are more liberal, maybe not. Bottom line is, if it will help get a contract and not too far fetched it's worth it to please the client.
I truly feel sorry that you married someone who can lower his standards to satisfy a client. Well, IF he is lowering his standards...perhaps these are his standards. Either way...he is not much of a man if he cant say to someone that he is not comforable sitting in a bar full of woman.. So either he is not man enough to say that...or he really wants to sit in the bar. Sad
Yeah, there is a difference between a $300 steak dinner and $1500 at a strip club. If you can't figure it out, then I feel sorry for you.
This is normal in a whole lot of industries and a whole lot of places. Don't be so naive.
Women are so clueless. Of course this is how it works. I'm glad he didn't have to figure this out without your support or there is no way you would get your house.
Um maybe just because I live in the Northeast but this is so not a big deal. People do business at strip clubs all the time. Women go to strip clubs and enjoy it. Imagine that. It's interesting seeing different opinions but wow this wouldn't bother me at all.
I live in upstate New York and I am just getting senior enough to be invited on a couple of these, uh, meetings.
That's good. It means your clients trust you. If you refuse, you might as well insult them and kiss the business goobye.
hahaha! you're so delusional.
People who "feel sorry" for others don't realize that everyone else "feels sorry" for them. Like isn't about judging others, it's about being yourself and enjoying every moment you have on this earth.
You're lucky to have such a strong relationship with your husband. Good for you!
All depends on the client. A stripe club wouldn't be my idea of a business venue but it is to some (there was an episode of "Happy Days", if you remember that show, where Richies' father takes a client to a strip club. He explains it to Richie, who saw him there, as "The better the stripper, the more business I get.").
And to the women who have responded negatively here:
Why do you presume to jump to conclusions? Sure we guys get our cheap (not really that cheap!) thrills seeing the girls at the clubs, the playful/flity banter, but that is faaaaaar from actually doing anything with them beyond look and make rude comments.
ps- FWIW, there's a strip club about a mile away from my house. My wife has been there and I haven't! ;-)) (a birthday party gag for a friend)
Hmm. I actually feel sorry for the people who feel sorry for Dog. Especially the one who made the dig about Senor Dog "lowering his standards". By god you all sound so uptight. There's more than one way to look at this and just because someone is more relaxed than you does not make them dirty or depraved.
If you've not come up against this in your work then maybe you're not in this industry. Hey, I knew people in the radio broadcasting industry in London where boozy afternoons at the pub with *cocaine* were de rigeur. Next to that, going to a strip club (Note: not the same as a brothel) is pretty tame.
I have no issue with my DH going to a strip club in general. So I guess it doesn't matter to me.
Also I know many people who do deals in a strip club.
In my industry many of the men build business relationships and contacts at strip clubs. They might not be doing business, but the "bonding" that goes on there influences business decisions and being left out means being left behind. I work in a rather uptight field so if it happens here, it happens anywhere. I agree it serves to limit women somewhat since we typically don't partake in these meetings. But wow, that must have been some night ;)
I don't really think the problem is that he's going to a strip club to do business - that's common the world over. The issue is Dog's naivity that he's only there to do business. Sorry, he's there to bond with his client and have a good time, she's fooling herself if she thinks he's not enjoying himself!
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